Membre Association 2023 olivierFRA100 Posted November 8, 2011 Membre Association 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 Message reçu de ZvonkoDear friends,On behalf of Sailing Club of Val (J.K. Val), organisers of Croatian 2012 IOM National Championship, we would like to invite you and your friends to compete with us on that event. Event will take place in Rogoznica, 13-15. 01. 2012.Navigation race on Friday 13 January 2012 morning (3 nautical miles around Rogoznica) as relaxing regatta very popular among CRO skippers and those foreign skippers who participated last years will be nice introduction to the top competition - CRO IOM Championship.Also, note that we will test new racing system called "Simple Heat Racing System". More about it on link at: www.iom-cro.net Quote Olivier PrésidentDélégué VRC ligue 7Team Blue Venti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrice fra38 Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 PILE POIL dans les dates de la régate à Marseille de sélection au CM de M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Funci Posted November 13, 2011 Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Hi all,Thanks to Olivier on posting our invitation for race in Rogoznica! I would like to informe you that already on entry list we have 7 Italian skipers and Guillermo Beltry, Oren Boker and Nir Shental from Israel are announced that they will come with few other Israelly skipers, also small group from Czech Republic, Hungarians...So, if somebody don't plan to compete on race in Marseilles it is very wellcome to come in Rogoznica! All informations are still on www.iom-cro.net Best regards, Hrvoje Duvancic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Membre Association 2023 olivierFRA100 Posted November 15, 2011 Author Membre Association 2023 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Plus d'infos sur le système SHRS làApparemment des poules "griazard" de qualifs réordonnées à chaque manche, puis des groupes or/argent/bronze/etc sans promotion/relégation pour les dernières manches. Nombre de manches de qualif et de finale définies dans l'ADC. Quote Olivier PrésidentDélégué VRC ligue 7Team Blue Venti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Funci Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Small explanation like I posted on Italian forum:In basic that means that race is in two parts.First part are qualification races where is intention that everybody sailing against everybody.After qualifications we will get gold, silver, bronze... groups.When you come in one group after qualifications you are staying inside to the end of event.So, now when you are in your group you must all the time sail with max concentracion because now you and all others are inside and it isn't enough any more to just be better than last 6 places to have good result! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eric 10 Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Small explanation like I posted on Italian forum:In basic that means that race is in two parts.First part are qualification races where is intention that everybody sailing against everybody.After qualifications we will get gold, silver, bronze... groups.When you come in one group after qualifications you are staying inside to the end of event.So, now when you are in your group you must all the time sail with max concentracion because now you and all others are inside and it isn't enough any more to just be better than last 6 places to have good result! Put-être un peu compliqué pour les classifications mais certainement moins tendu en phase finale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Funci Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Now after half races skipers from A fleet have enough points theat nobody from B or C fleet can't go significantly up. And everybody just looking to don't go on worse group. With SHRS the best go in GOLD fleet, medium good in SILVER ect... and in that groups they must show the best performance to win the group. Try to simulate with numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Funci Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Here is starting list with last entries:1. Hrvoje Duvančić CRO 71 S Jk Val Karaoke 2.4 GHz2. Marin Desabota CRO 09 J JK Val Karaoke 2.4 GHz3. Zoran Grubiša CRO 69 S SCOR Pikanto 2.4 GHz4. Zvonko Jelačić CRO 35 S JK Zenta Pikanto 2.4 GHz5. Boris Bakotić CRO 96 S JK Zenta Pikanto 2.4 GHz6. Robert Matulja CRO 33 S JK Opatija Pikanto 2.4 GHz7. Paolo Mavričić CRO 32 J JK Opatija Tunka 2.4 GHz8. Dante Dalla Torre ITA 177 S V7 2.4 GHz9. Vincenzo Bonvissuto ITA 132 S V7 2.4 GHz10. Pierluigi Puthod ITA 22 S Moster 2.4 GHz11. Gianluigi Rudoni ITA 25 S Obsoletion 2.4 GHz12. Matteo Longhi ITA 24 S 2.4 GHz13. Gianni Penta ITA 240 S Pikanto 2.4 GHz14. Carlo Malara ITA 104 S Topiko 2.4 GHz15. Ante Kovačević CRO 30 S JK Zenta Pikanto16. Guillermo Beltri ESP 47 S RCN Torrevieja V7 2.4 GHz17. Marko Matić CRO 89 S JK Trogir V7 2.4 GHz18. Drago Bogdanović CRO 17 S JK Sv. Nikola Azetone 40.815 MHz19. Denis Vukas CRO 54 S JK Orsan Karaoke 2.4 GHz20. Zvonimir Šiljac CRO 75 S JK Uskok Pikanto21. Nir Shental ISR 37 S Israel IOM team Pikanto 2.4 GHz22. Oren Boker ISR 55 S Israel IOM team Pikanto 2.4 GHz23. Lenko Jakelić CRO 12 S JK Mornar24. Peter Beliczay HUN 01 S Sailing.hu team 2.4 GHz25. Csaba Forrai HUN 31 S Sailing.hu team 2.4 GHzTill now CRO, ITA, ESP, ISR, HUN and expecting for CZE, ROM, SLO... maybe also FRA and GBR?There are lot of empty places, new sailors are wellcome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Membre Association 2023 olivierFRA100 Posted January 16, 2012 Author Membre Association 2023 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Cédric, c'est bon, pas la peine d'échanger le V7 contre un Pikanto ! Classement final Quote Olivier PrésidentDélégué VRC ligue 7Team Blue Venti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRA 3759 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Bon pour le champion, mais on voit 50% des V7 en flotte B contre 17% des Pikanto.Intéressant de voir le nouveau système de qualification et pas HMS. J'imagine que HMS aurait donné un classement similaire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Membre Association 2023 olivierFRA100 Posted January 16, 2012 Author Membre Association 2023 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Je n'aime pas du tout ce système qui comme tu dis donne probablement les mêmes résultats mais qui si tu rates ton début de championnat t'obliges à rester en 2e flotte tout le reste de la régate sans côtoyer les meilleurs.A mon avis la conséquence à moyen terme de l'utilisation de ce système c'est que les "moins bons" ne viennent plus aux régates. Quote Olivier PrésidentDélégué VRC ligue 7Team Blue Venti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eric 10 Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Je n'aime pas du tout ce système qui comme tu dis donne probablement les mêmes résultats mais qui si tu rates ton début de championnat t'obliges à rester en 2e flotte tout le reste de la régate sans côtoyer les meilleurs.A mon avis la conséquence à moyen terme de l'utilisation de ce système c'est que les "moins bons" ne viennent plus aux régates.+1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Posted January 16, 2012 Report Share Posted January 16, 2012 Oui Olivier, c'est un vieux délire des grosbisoux, ils avaient déja proposé ce système de course à l'ISAF RSD, et il avait été refusé à l'unanimité ( - 2 voix bien sur) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 ce système a été utilisé en Italie pour 1 an ... Heureusement, le skipper a décollé parce que beaucoup ne sont pas plus «à la race. et «non-sens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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